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Nurani Nimpuno (not verified) October 28, 2013

Very insightful observations. And you're right, IXPs are not about the technical equipment. It's about the community building, about acting as a catalyst, about getting competitors to exchange traffic because it's mutually beneficial and it's good for the Internet! You can use technical arguments about latency, speed, control to convince people that it's better to exchange traffic locally, or you can use economic arguments about not allowing a country's money to leave the country to pay for expensive transit connections that go through the US or Europe and rather spending it to improve local infrastructure. And that all makes sense. But at the end of the day, you need to talk to people to get things happening. We call it networking. You call it diplomacy! :) I really enjoyed our discussions in the session. You're welcome to e-squat in our sessions any time Jovan. :-) And you know what, you should come to an European Peering Forum sometime to see the "diplomacy" in action. I think you'd enjoy it! Nurani Nimpuno Netnod

Jovan Kurbalija October 31, 2013

Thank you Nurani. Your session was important for me. It addressed one of my concerns as a citizen and father of 12-years old daughter. Today, there is a risk of some sort of logical positivism or 'scientification' of social life under the slogan: 'with enough processing power we can sort out all problems of the world'. You can hear it among techno-enthusiast (mainly form Silicon Valley). It is a VERY risky tendency. Similar - often genuine - approaches form the 19th century (to solve social problems by using scientific methods) inspired some of the most traumatic experiments in bloody and messy 20th century. At your session, there were technical people who discussed technical issue by striking the right balance among understanding of technology, using evidence to inform their policy (latency, speed) and being aware of our limits to influence social dynamics. The most we can do is to be part of the process and guide it whenever we can by using 'networking' or 'diplomacy' name it, ultimately by listening carefully, developing empathy with our interlocutors and trying to persuade them. The wisdom of technical people sitting at your session was VERY re-assuring, especially, in the current very turbulent e-times. I am looking forward to the next opportunity to interact with 'peering gang'! In the meantime here is one attempt to reflect on persuasion in diplomacy:

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